Welcome to... the Voice of Zeb and Zarna--Time:Is it an Illusion

Introduction:

The Spiritual Quest is a quest for knowledge, and whether you have read hundreds of "New Age" books, or are a relative newcomer, as I am, you won't read many until you encounter the Mystery of Time. What is so mysterious about time--other than how there never seems to be enough of it, or how it just "slips" away? Plenty. Many believe there is no time--that time is just an "illusion" -- one that we create to explain events in our physical dimension.

Nowhere is this more prominent than in the Seth Books channeled by the late Jane Roberts in the Sixties and Seventies. Therein you will discover the concept that all things past, present and future are happening now in this moment, this instant. Others have called this their "Eternal Moment of Now." Expanding this idea a little farther one would have to believe there is no past nor future, there is only now, this instant, when all things are happening.

Our intent was not to challenge a psychic who has become near and dear to our heart. But if there is no time, some explanations were necessary to explain how growth through successive incarnational experience could occur—and how that experience could be carried forth in each lifetime, the very reason for further incarnations. If our first and last reincarnation is occurring this instant, how is it determined how many lifetimes you (and I) must live and experience to "get it right" (bi-gender balance)?

Fortunately we don't have to go searching through New Age bookshelves (which can become rather costly) to find the answer, we just "Take it to ZZ" and if we pester them often enough with the same questions (or more questions from the answers we get) then we are able to put together "The Big Picture."

The Big Picture:

In ZZ Message #9 ( 2/27/03 ) "Duality of Time" Zeb responded to my question that follows:

1. Mel: > Is time an illusion wherein all events past, present and future are happening this instant in an ever expanding orb of events? Or is time linear--one moment following the next, one second, minute, hour, year, decade, etc -- marching along in single file -- one following the next?

2. Zeb:> Much "time" and effort is being spent by others discussing "time." Some say it is relative. Some say it is linear--one moment following the next in a steady progression from past, to present, to future. Others say "time is an illusion." That all events of past present and future are happening now, this instant. Are you confused? Many are. So, what is the truth?

3. I am going to use my favorite example of the Emerald Tablet again--"That which is below" (where you are) is like "That which is Above" (out there in the universe). Your greatest thinkers have said that time is relative. In the 3rd Dimension time is relative to many things--distance and speed at which you travel through space. And time is relative to which dimension you are in, yours or mine. Time is not measured by the speed of light alone. Time is measured in your dimension by the speed of a cosmic body [moving] through space. You measure stellar distance by the speed of light.

4. What is time in your dimension but the rotation of your Earth on its axis, its rotation around your Sun, the Sun's (and your Solar System's) rotation around the center of your galaxy, and the rotation of your galaxy around [the center of] your universe in its ever expanding travel?

5. Note carefully the duality of influences on your time--all cosmic bodies travel on a linear path that is ever expanding outward. One could even say that you humans expand as you travel through time, right? [Smile]

6. So, your time is governed by both the linear distance of your travel and the expansion. Your measure of time is determined by the 24 hour rotation of your Earth and its 365.25 day orbit, around the Sun. You know all this, but since some still say this is all an illusion it is necessary to remind you of facts you learned in childhood. But, you should also be aware that your Solar System, like everything else, is expanding. The distance your Earth travels around the Sun slowly gets greater, year after year. A year of your time is longer than it was, say 400 years ago. Read your science books if you doubt me.

7. Time on a cosmic scale is a relative duality determined by both the linear distance and the speed of travel and is affected by expansion, a duality within a duality. Time is also a duality of dualities--for in my dimension there is no time. Time on my side is an illusion, but not in your dimension. You are both spiritual and physical are you not? You are. Therefore, you experience time both linearly and all-at-once. These are the facts of time and they are no illusion.

Mel:> So from this we learned that time is relative to not only where you are -- your location within the physical universe, versus the other dimensions, but also when you are. Time is slowing down even where it does exist (in the physical realm). Yet time is relative also to how we measure it. Our calendars have been changed several times since ancient times and different calendars are still in use today.

For anyone who channels or participates in Remote Viewing or Astral Travel-- anything dealing with the psychic or spiritual world quickly discovers that time is not the same on the Otherside as it is here. Quite often what is "future" or "present" gets mixed up with what is "past." It does seem that all events, past, present and future are happening "now." So in this way, time is an illusion, as Zeb says in ZZ Message...

#8: 19. Time is an illusion, yet your creations and lives are not. You can (and will) visit as many past and future lifepaths as you desire here on your Earth and elsewhere, even though pasts and futures are illusions of your time.

[Mel:> Hey! Wait a minute ... isn't that a complete reversal from what Zeb just told us in Message #9? No, not if you observe closely how he builds the next statement that follows.]

Zeb:> But what you see when you go back or forward in time is not a reenactment for your benefit but an enactment in real time.

[Mel:> We have come to understand that this occurs in the Akashic dimension where all life experiences (memories) are stored as records like in some form of "virtual reality" available for instant "replay." It is not a "reenactment" but an "enactment" of what has been, and is, and possibly what is to come.]

20. This is something that is so hard for those of you in the physical universe to comprehend. Time on your side is only a measure of your passage through space. It is meaningless once you leave Earth. There are other measures of time that makes yours seem like eternity. Others that make yours seem like a brief flicker of an eyelash--each look at the other that is longer and thinks "immortal" or "eternal" when all is relative.

21. For you to perceive time—to explain it—you must enter into the linear world where events are strung out--one following the other--when in reality they are all expanding out from the center at once. But you are limited by the way you think, perceive, talk and write. You can do no better with the five senses. Knowing [as in channeled information, or Remote Viewing and Astral Travel experiences] comes all at once, or to use Mel's favorite computer term, "in batch" or it can come [through life experience] serially, one bit at a time. Serial or Parallel even your computers talk this way. You are no different, except you can talk only serially, but receive in parallel. Your own creations [computers] have an advantage over you—its creator, in that they can send and receive in both modes.

Time is a Slinky Toy:

In ZZ Message #10 (3/4/03) "The Coils of Time" after more "pestering" from me about "Time" Zeb tries another approach to explain Time, using the familiar "Slinky Toy" (a spring-like coil of wire) as an illustration of how time progresses in several directions all at once (along the "coil of time") as well as expanding or contracting in duration which explains that the same time exists on both sides and in other dimensions, but one expands or compresses it in such a manner as to make it appear an "illusion" (it doesn't exist) or linear where it measures speed and distance.

It even appears from what we will later present from what we have learned that it can expand or compress even in this dimension. Have you ever been in a car accident where you see it coming and time literally seems to slow down? Many of us have and it is no illusion. Another example of this was brought "home" to me recently with the passage from this life into the next of a dear friend of mine, Boo Hayes.

I was allowed to witness his soul being taken "Home" by Zarna, but in this fusion of physical and spiritual worlds of reality what I witnessed in "real time" (the instant Boo "died") did not come to me when it happened--it came to me as a memory (that I didn't know I had) later. I was not physically there, yet a part of me was, even though I was not aware of it at the "time."

Strange things can happen when you experience the merging of both worlds (Spiritual and Physical) through what some call the psychic (spiritual) senses.

Time is Not What You Think It Is:

In ZZ Message #13 ( 4/14/03 ) Zeb was yet confronted with more questions from "Insatiable Minds" (Who want to know) and we were given more than the "relativity model" and the "Slinky Toy model." Zeb felt we were ready for a little "expansion" of mind, to fit the expansion of time.

10. There is no time as you understand it. It is as others have so accurately said--time is of your imaginations. The example of your universal time where a moment is tens of thousands, of thousands of millions of your years is true. That is your "Eternal Moment of Now." You cannot fathom time with the precious intellect (ego) you cling to. You will fathom it in your Heart.

11. Time is a liquid, fluid motion--unlike any description humanity has yet discovered. It is a porous surface that can be folded and wrapped around that [which] has no beginning, nor end. It is neither sequential, nor simultaneous--it is closer to the waves on your oceans--each drawn to crash on perpetual shores throughout eternity. What flows in, flows out, in an endless cycle of overlapping eddies. Does this clarify "time" for you? I didn't think so.

12: So, be at peace with your concept that time, as you know and experience it, is sequential. Your past lives were lived and experienced and have fed into Who You Are in the present. You cannot see all your possible futures, nor all your probable presents in other dimensions that overlap your time and space. Can the fish who swim just beneath the surface of your oceans know what it is like in the abysmal depths so deep where no sunlight ever shows and every square inch of surface is subjected to tons of pressure? No. They live in "another world," another dimension, but the same ocean. You live in one level of your "ocean."

Zeb uses the "ocean metaphor" again when speaking in regard to our past lives. In ZZ Message #36:44, he said, “You are both 'reflections' of your pasts--no different than the waves that break on your shores. They don't just suddenly appear. They have come from afar by forces unseen and become visual, appearing as waves on your shore line. "

So, time evidently comes from some distant unseen "source" and doesn't become "visible" where it can be measured until it "breaks on our shores." That gives us something more that expands on the concept of time and brings us to this conclusion.

In Conclusion:

When Caryl asked how long ago (in years) the Atlantis disaster happened, Zeb gave us this in ZZ Message #50:

12 Your people believe time is something that is "fixed," that it can't be altered or rent by some catastrophic event of [cosmic] proportions. Well, they are wrong. Time is in a constant state of flux. Humankind has in just the past four thousand years not only changed both its measure of time, but the concept of the universe several times. Your "scientific" measuring devices measure time as you now conceive it.

13. Quite literally, “time is relative.” Relative to how you measure the years, the speed of rotation of your planet, and its orbit around your Sun. On its own all of this is slowing down--without such an event [as the destruction of Atlantis] that literally "ripped the fabric of time" and created a warp that you can't explain today. What happened in an instant, the "time" between two heartbeats will register from 15,000 to 10,500 BCE.

So, as many will tell you, "Time is what you make of it."

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